Is Every SDA Church Fallen?

Question #318:
Is every SDA church fallen? Or are the conservative ones still safe?

I do go to an SDA church, but I can’t consider every single congregation to be “daughters of Babylon.” Certainly there are congregations in apostasy. When I originally wrote to you, I gave various quotes from the sop about the SDA controversy. I do agree with some of your points that the General conference is “no longer God’s voice” and the 501c3 corporation confirms that in a mighty way. But it said in the testimonies and various other publications that entering any “new organization” would mean apostasy from the truth. It also said there would be “Seventh-Day Adventists” who would not bow to Rome’s mark.

We have a friend in our church who has home meetings – a home group has been set up. So, there is no problem with me leaving the “SDA church” as a physical building. We already have plans to meet in the homes anyway when the times of trouble come, when churches will most likely be taken away and shut down.

ANSWER:

It is good to hear you have left to join a home church; but just so you know, the Bible doesn’t say to stay in an apostate denomination simply because some of the preachers preach conservatively while still under an openly apostate name. Truth is, there are some Catholic churches that are claiming to be conservative that even meet on Sabbath each week as well as numerous Jewish Synagogues that do the same. Does that mean it’s safe to join them? Of course not.

This mindset is especially problematic when now, literally 100% of every single SDA church is by law, and confirmed as of July 08, 2025 to be considered government agencies with the ability to lobby religious law. Yes they were legally declared to be state churches back in March of 2006 under Bush’s E.O  #13397, but it wasn’t until December of 2017 that it became “somewhat” legalized under Trump. What most could not see, unless obedient onto the same God that opens eyes, is that after realizing their judicial dilemma, they acted as if it was tabled back then to cover up their legal snafu. But as we now know, it was to remove a conflict of interest behind closed doors brought on by Trump’s eagerness to push for a State church. Therefore, it was all rectified “legally” (and I use the term loosely) on July 08, 2025 via the Roman Catholic IRS in Trump’s second term.

This means, be it conservative or not, every SDA man, woman and child sitting in an SDA church, be it brick and mortar, or a simple home church wherein they claim the SDA name, they are in fact in an apostate church and thereby the very ones prophecy says will be held accountable as those that help to create the image of the beast in America. (See a lot more on this prophesied image here)

As per your statement regarding SOP; you need to also see what the Spirit of Prophecy says about the future condition of the SDA church, if in fact they decided to continue on their present path when those statements were penned back then. With all that in mind, and taking into consideration regarding what sister White said about how “time and place” must be considered, (see PH116 25a.1) historic fact is, they did continue on that defiled path, and since then have openly become a “sister to fallen Babylon” just as SOP and the Bible predicted long ago. (See many SOP quotes that all SDA pastors never share with their church families listed here)

And by the way, conservative or not, your pastor, nor any pastor can be paid by the GC of the SDA church unless he (or she) agrees to preach (and not preach) under the United States binding agreement of the General Conference’s 501c3 contract. That pastor must sign an agreement not to jeopardize the SDA 501c3 contract. And if your pastor claims he never receives a check from the GC, yet still declares to be SDA, that pastor is breaking Trademark Law and not only placing himself a target of a lawsuit as many have found out the hard way, as per Romans 13:1-7, he is denying the laws of the “ordained leaders” of the land that placed those laws on the books and in open sin according to the written Word of God. 

In fact, all your tithe and love offerings do not go to the local pastor right off even if he is an ordained SDA pastor. The tithe must first go to the Government subsidized General Conference first and then they cut a check to your “conservative” pastor each and every week so as to stay valid and legit under the contract. He never sees your tithe without it first being handled and distributed by the GC. Worse yet, the SDA church also cuts a check on a regular basis as a sign of loyalty to the Pope using the SDA tithe money. See this video wherein I show admission of same on actual General Conference letterhead.

That all being said; this is why I asked you in the earlier email if you were SDA in the first place. Every SDA that claims the name or is still a member in the General Conference churches is in direct disobedience to Christ’s command in Matthew 22:21 and Revelation 18:4. Being as such, they cannot effectively understand doctrine and especially Bible prophecy, for the only way to understand it is to obey the God that wrote it. 

As for claiming the SDR people are starting a “new organization” as you said, that is not true at all. The SDA church has already sued many of their members to get them to stop using the SDA name once they started to preach “conservatively.” In fact they have even placed one man in jail in Texas not too long ago for refusing to stop using the trademarked SDA name. How is it your pastor is unmolested and still able to preach, unless he “secretly” obeys the GC leaders so as to eventually pull his “congregants” back into the SDA church as John Grosball did years ago? Basic reality that leaves the people of the SDR movement completely outside their reach is, we never use the SDA name, for in so doing not only defiles us by association to that name while at the same time soils the present truth message we are called to proclaim. For the SDA name is now recognized on earth as it is in Heaven as being an apostate, dead church.

The fact the SDA church sues their own people confirms what why the true “remnant of her seed” use the new name the Lord gave us just as prophecy predicted He would. See more on that prophetic and now historic fact here.

The truth in the matter is, all the liberal as well as conservative SDA churches are the ones actually creating a “new organization” all on their own. It is not the SDR people. We simply “follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth” as prophesied in Revelation 14:4.

Fact is, if you were to take the original statement of faith of the SDA church in their infancy and place it alongside the SDR statement of today, you would see a perfect match. But now take the original SDA statement of faith and place it besides the modern day SDA church’s statement and you will find they are NOT the same. (I shared this in a video six years ago) Basic reality is, you’re not saved by a denominational name anyway. Scripture declares we are saved by Jesus.

Now.. to further confirm the truth in this matter; notice how the SDA pastors declare Allah is God on camera, the health message is quackery, the Pope is no longer Antichrist but a “holy leader” to all the people, homosexual marriage is ok, women can and have been ordained as pastors, one of them as a conference leader no less, and so on and so forth. (See a ton of videos on this here) That being the case, one can clearly see that the SDA church is the one that literally CREATED A NEW ORGANIZATION while using the old name to hide their long-prophesied agenda. That’s how crafty the prophet Daniel predicted this beast that infiltrated the SDA church and all the other churches would be. Have you ever read the Jesuit oath wherein they admit in writing that their duty is to take on the role as a leader in each denomination they infiltrate for mother Rome? See their oath here.

As for waiting until the time of trouble to start before moving the churches into the homes. That is also a confirmation that being in a fallen church can blind the people to the fact that the “little time of trouble” prophesied to start before the plagues HAS ALREADY STARTED.

Over 200,000 Christians are killed each year for their faith by Muslims now, and that’s only the fudged numbers we know about via the Vatican controlled media. (See the facts about this and more here) This is why all SDR churches in America and all other nations are in private homes already. Just as the churches started in the homes in the book of Acts 2000 years ago, the final church will only be in home churches when Christ returns. Don’t believe me” Ask the Christians where they meet for worship in Nigeria, China and India just to name a few.

Look around and you will see that these obedient Christians are martyred each and every year by the Vatican using their ADMITTED Islamic brethren. And most nations, which now includes America, have passed laws making the Bible hate speech when it comes to the long prophesied movement of the homosexuals. They have removed more than a few of my videos about Bible facts calling them HATE SPEECH, so that every person clicking the video link can see it! But those trapped in an apostate and disobedient church, cannot see all that. Nor do we see any SDA leaders being harassed as the obedient remnant of her seed is. So much so they are now teaching you that you need to await the plagues to fall before moving into the home churches? If you wait till then.. it will be too late. They need to “come out of her” NOW!

And so, in short, as prophesied, every SDA church is fallen.

For a LOT more info proving the SDA church is no longer a Christian church, check out the studies, videos, pictures, SDA doc files, SOP quotes and much more at SDAapostasy.org.